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You Take Jesus, I'll Take God

Written by: Laura Barron

You Take Jesus, I'll Take God: How To Refute Christian Missionaries. Samuel Levine. Los Angeles: Hamoroh Press, 1980.

Overview

As a Christian, it is difficult not to be offended by the presentation of Levine's book. As a Jew, it is difficult not to be embarrassed by Levine's lack of integrity. It's not that his material is so much different from other refutationists, it's that he chooses to use it in a degrading and demeaning manner. He states that his audience is Jewish and that is my consolation. I think that many Jewish people would disregard this book simply because of its snide and superficial treatment of Christianity. My hope is that most Christians would never open it so that they would not think Levine's attitude is typical of Judaism.

Strengths

Levine outlines his intentions clearly in his introductory pages and his overall structure is simple and accessible. He is consistent in maintaining his premise and every argument he presents, whether faulty or not, is thrust toward this purpose. He uses ample scriptures, whether twisted or not, to support his thesis. Although Levine's basic suppositions are false, he supports them unwaveringly throughout his book. He wants to give Jewish people a guide for handling Christian arguments and he is faithful to his task. I must say that Levine is one of the refutationists who gives a bit of room for Christian arguments, even though they are poorly presented, in his pages. I think that is all I can say that is good about this book!

Weaknesses

What tears down Levine's integrity as a writer, and I certainly cannot contend that he is a scholar, is his superficial, facile and contradictory logic and the use of false information and pointless insults (referring to Jesus as a "furry pet lamb" and "a man hanging on the wall with his arms stretched out" is entirely unnecessary) throughout his refutation. I know many people who would not read past the sweeping generalization in his preface: "Since all of them [Jewish Christians], without exception, did not know the Bible or their Judaism before they were introduced to Christianity, they were easily manipulated by Christian missionaries." He warns readers that they should "be aware that you are most probably dealing with brainwashed people" who "accepted Jesus into their lives for psychological reasons."

Samples of faulty logic are laced throughout his book. When discussing Zechariah 9:9 and Matthew 27:1,20 he states, "Thus, if Matthew is correct, the Jews did not feel that Jesus was their king. If Matthew is not correct, then the New Testament is false, and the theory of the second coming and the entire Christian religion is also false." He tries the same method of argument in disposing of the virgin birth interpretation of Isaiah 7:14, "If the Christians are correct, then God is an idiot, for he is promising a sign to Ahaz…and this sign will appear 500 years later!" Levine can hardly contain his nastiness when he proposes that any prophecy Jesus did not fulfill in his first coming proves that he was not the Messiah: "…it becomes almost incredible that one could accept Jesus as the Messiah (unless one needs to, for psychological reasons, but that is a different story altogether—I am dealing here with theological and historical truths, not neuroses.)" In the final analysis, Levine hopes that his logic and lurid language will dispose of the Christian religion entirely and entice Jews away from Jesus. This seeps throughout his book and immerses it in fallibility.

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Comments  

 
0 #12 Ruven 2006-06-19 03:42
It is clear to me that Malvina doesn't know a word of Hebrew. If she did it would be clear to her that moshiach does not translate as messiah or savior, rather it means, as Mordechai so clearly points out, "annointed one!" In real terms the Hebrew moshiach could refer to a king, a priest, a Levi, even a bride or bridegroom annointed prior to a wedding. To so loosely mistranslate presents one with a false impression which leads to false conclusions. One of those false conclusions is that because Jesus did not fulfill the major prophecies as pointed to by Mordechai. One does not now, nor has one ever required the blood of the lamb for repentence. Your Jesus perhaps shed his blood for nothing.
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0 #11 Mordechai 2006-05-11 03:39
Daniel 9:26 speaks of an anointed one being cut off, not a messiah. But looking at the verses it seems to say that the anointed will be killed at the same time the sanctuary will be destroyed. Reread 26: After the 62 sevens the anointed will be killed and the people will destroy the sanctuary. Jesus was killed about 5 sevens before the Temple was destroyed, and floods do not wait 5 sevens to do damage. Still no "second coming" source.
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0 #10 Malvina 2006-04-19 14:07
Mordechai, Hope these will help: Daniel 9:26a speaks of Messiah being cut off, Daniel 9:26c the Messiah would be killed before the destruction of the Temple, There are many more at www.messiahrevealed.org I hope you will find the answers to your questions.
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0 #9 Mordechai 2006-03-30 00:07
If the above has not been accomplished, the messiah has not yet come. Simple as that. Jesus could therefore not be colled "the messiah", for the above had not been done. Where do you see any source for this "second coming" theory?
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0 #8 Malvina 2006-03-18 02:20
Mordechai, You've said that these are the requirements, -Gather Jews from exile (Isaiah 11:12) -Rebuild the Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-27) -Rule during worldwide peace (Micah 4:3) -Jews will obey all G-D's Commandments (Ezekiel 37:24) -All will acknowledge and serve G-D (Isaiah 66:23). You're right, but these are for the second coming of the Messiah. What do you do when you need to repaint a wood cabinet? Do you strip the impurities first or paint over in order to make everything look pretty on the surface? The same goes for us. None of the above verses will come true untill the second coming of the Messiah. The time between the first coming and second coming is that "stripping of the impurities" time.
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0 #7 Mordechai 2006-03-09 03:47
Did Jesus reconnect man with G-D? I see him only going around telling people to follow him, and he also gets in trouble with the "Teachers of the Law". The Torah gave much information on who the messiah would be, and it appears Jesus didn't fulfill the main requirements: -Gather Jews from exile (Isaiah 11:12) -Rebuild the Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-27) -Rule during worldwide peace (Micah 4:3) -Jews will obey all G-D's Commandments (Ezekiel 37:24) -All will acknowledge and serve G-D (Isaiah 66:23) Healing people does not make him the messiah, and nor does riding to Jerusalem on a donkey. Here's an example for you: A prohpet tells you the next president of the U.S. will be born in Nevada, will have graduated from LSU, will have played shortstop in high school, and will stutter. Now, if you find someone who meets only one of these qualifications, will you say he and no one else must be the next president? Only when one meets all requirements will he receive that title.
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0 #6 Malvina 2006-03-07 07:00
Mordechai, The signs are right infront of you and you still don't see them. One of the prophets said that the Messiah would be a miracle worker: healing the sick and connecting man back with God. Jesus did all that and more. Maybe this example will help: Would you feel better if someone loved you because you told them they must love you, or would you feel better if someone loved you because they did it on their own free will? That's why God only gave so much info in the Bible about who the Messiah would be so you can recognize Him on your own and your own free will. And He was still generous enough by giving us tons of info on who the Messiah would be. I don't think God wants us to be His puppets. If He did, He would of done something about it. God is love...and love is not forcefull! :)
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0 #5 Mordechai 2006-01-30 04:31
Why couldn't G-D just create him without human intervention? It worked the first time. But let's say, Rob, for argument's sake, Jesus was conceived by G-D directly. Isaiah still doesn't have anything to do with the situation in question. Reread my previous post, then tell me why G-D couldn't tell the Jews that HE would eventually have a son. If Gen. 3:15 is talking about one person, why can't it be referring to King David? Or Joseph? Or King Solomon? Or Elazar the High Priest? Where is the specific reference to Jesus? Deut. 18:15-22: Moses tells the Jews there will be another prophet like him, in that he receives the word of G-D directly. If he claims to speak the word of G-D, and you're not sure to believe him, ask him for a sign, and if it comes to pass, he is a true prophet. You must listen to him, unless he doesn't produce a sign or the "prophecy" doesn't happen.
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0 #4 Rob 2006-01-28 15:08
Yes, God caused a woman to conceive a man-child from the "seed" God implanted in her. Yeshua was not "created" at conception, rather He inhabited the physical body created for Him at conception. (Gen 3:15 - And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed - seed is singular, and represents a person, not a people). Yeshua in the O.T.: "The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him."(Deut 18:15)
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0 #3 Mordechai 2006-01-26 06:11
So G-D created a woman who then gave birth to G-D? Does this make sense? Also, please remember to keep Isaiah 7:14 in the proper context and time period: It was Isaiah's sign to King Ahaz that the surrounding armies wouldn't harm him. If Jesus is the son Isaiah was refering to, and he was born 500 years later, why would Isaiah use this as a sign for an imminent prophecy? Another question to consider: Since G-D was able to let Abraham know he would have a son, why didn't HE tell HIS nation that HE would have a son? It would be the proper thing to do, and then HE could say that we are not to worship any other beings except HIM and the son HE will have some 70 years before the Second Destruction.
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